{"id":2985,"date":"2025-02-22T11:39:57","date_gmt":"2025-02-22T10:39:57","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.rouillier.com\/wordpress-socioeco\/?p=2985"},"modified":"2025-02-22T11:39:59","modified_gmt":"2025-02-22T10:39:59","slug":"le-dialogue-trump-poutine","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.rouillier.com\/wordpress-socioeco\/le-dialogue-trump-poutine\/","title":{"rendered":"Le dialogue Trump \u2013 Poutine"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">C\u2019est maintenant un fait acquis que l\u2019avenir de l\u2019Ukraine se discute entre Trump et Poutine sans souci de l\u2019Ukraine et des partenaires Europ\u00e9ens.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Les participants<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">On, a en pr\u00e9sence, sans exag\u00e9rer,&nbsp;deux v\u00e9ritables psychopathes<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ol class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>Trump\u00a0: Un hyper narcissique un peu parano\u00efaque, extraverti, impulsif, et impatient \u2026 au fond efficace \u00e0 court terme et na\u00eff \u00e0 long terme<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Poutine\u00a0: Un hyper narcissique, plut\u00f4t parano\u00efaque, introverti, calculateur et patient ( qui n\u2019est pas sans rappeler Xi Jinping) relativement en retrait \u00e0 court terme mais tr\u00e8s efficace \u00e0 long terme.<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">C\u2019est \u00e9videmment un dialogue tr\u00e8s d\u00e9s\u00e9quilibr\u00e9 et dans ce cas de figure le na\u00eff se fait toujours rouler. . Le patient tisse sa toile et l\u2019impulsif se jette dedans&nbsp;!<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Les objectifs<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<ol class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>Trump\u00a0: Il veut avant tout flatter son ego et obtenir la paix que Biden et les autres n\u2019ont pas r\u00e9ussis \u00e0 imposer, il c\u00e8dera \u00e0 celui qui aura le plus \u00e0 lui offrir, et cela \u00e0 tout prix. \u00a0Peut-\u00eatre pense-t-il attirer la Russie dans le camp Am\u00e9ricain et l\u2019\u00e9loigner de la Chine \u2026 ce qui n\u2019arrivera jamais\u00a0!<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Poutine\u00a0: Il construit pas \u00e0 pas son h\u00e9g\u00e9monie. Apr\u00e8s la G\u00e9orgie, la Crim\u00e9e il veut maintenant le Donbass. Il veut s\u2019en servir comme t\u00eate de pont pour d\u00e9stabiliser de l\u2019int\u00e9rieur ces conqu\u00eates et y \u00e9tablir des r\u00e9gimes \u00e0 sa botte comme la Bi\u00e9lorussie. IL a pour appui une frange d\u2019ukrainiens pro-russes \u2026 les \u00ab\u00a0collabos\u00a0\u00bb de demain<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Le deal<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Ne nous trompons pas, le deal est d\u00e9j\u00e0 fait et les soi-disant n\u00e9gociations ne sont qu\u2019une farce. Les territoires conquis sont d\u00e9j\u00e0 acquis \u00e0 la Russie et il est pr\u00e9vu d\u2019\u00e9liminer Zelinsky par un vote ou autrement (Poutine fait \u00e7a tr\u00e8s bien) pour le remplacer par une potiche \u00e0 la solde de Poutine.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Trump a choisi son camp (ce qui n\u2019en fait plus de lui un arbitre mais une des parties) Il a d\u00e9finitivement choisi le camps Russe en reprenant mot \u00e0 mot la communication de Poutine&nbsp;:&nbsp; \u00ab&nbsp;Zelenski est un dictateur, il est d\u00e9cri\u00e9 dans son pays, il est ill\u00e9gitime, et c\u2019est l\u2019Ukraine qui a commenc\u00e9 la guerre&nbsp;\u00bb. Autant d\u2019ineptie, mais qui font mouche associ\u00e9s \u00e0 la propagande Russe.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Un point d\u2019achoppement est que Trump ne veut pas que l\u2019Am\u00e9rique soit le force de garantie de la paix, et Poutine ne veut pas que ce soit le r\u00f4le de l\u2019Europe.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Conclusion<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Mais ce que Trump pr\u00e9sente comme une victoire personnelle est en fait une simple capitulation de l\u2019Am\u00e9rique, et par voie de cons\u00e9quences de l\u2019Europe, devant Poutine qui r\u00e9cup\u00e8re le fruit de son agression. Rappelons que ce dernier est responsable de pr\u00e9s d\u2019un million de morts et estropi\u00e9s ,&nbsp; de viols et exactions, et de destructions, et qu\u2019il est reconnu coupable de crime de guerre par le tribunal p\u00e9nal international. On peut dire que Trump choisi bien ses amis puisque Netanyahu est \u00e9galement incrimin\u00e9 par le TPI.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Le danger est grand car Poutine a des soutiens dans tous les pays d\u2019Europe et m\u00eame en Ukraine et c\u2019est avec leur aide qu\u2019il compte d\u00e9stabiliser l\u2019Ukraine. L\u2019exp\u00e9rience montre qu\u2019en 1940, les nazis n\u2019ont put s\u2019implanter et gouverner la France qu\u2019avec l\u2019aide des sympathisants des ann\u00e9es 30 (l\u2019extr\u00eame droite Fran\u00e7aise). C\u2019est sur ces partis que Poutine pense s\u2019appuyer.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Trump et lui pourront se pr\u00e9senter \u00e0 leurs populations comme les grands faiseurs de paix (difficile de les d\u00e9partager pour le prix Nobel de la paix&nbsp;!) \u2026 et les gogos des deux pays goberons \u00e7a facilement. L\u2019Europe fid\u00e8le \u00e0 son image de vell\u00e9itaire et d\u2019impuissance perdra encore un peu de son influence. Comme le disais Churchill \u00ab&nbsp;A force d\u2019h\u00e9siter entre le d\u00e9shonneur ou le guerre&nbsp; on a le d\u00e9shonneur et la guerre&nbsp;!&nbsp;\u00bb. L\u2019Europe et les pays Europ\u00e9ens jouent l\u00e0 leurs derni\u00e8res cartouches&nbsp;, fautes de quoi ils s\u2019enfonceront dans une lente \u00ab&nbsp;agonie&nbsp;\u00bb qui les am\u00e8nera \u00e0 perdre leur aura de grandes nations. Les extr\u00eames droites jouent un r\u00f4le&nbsp; d\u00e9l\u00e9t\u00e8re car collaborant avec la Russie ou l\u2019Am\u00e9rique de Trump pour d\u00e9molir l\u2019Europe, ils vont en m\u00eame temps d\u00e9truire leur pays \u2026 ils coupent le branche sur laquelle ils sont assis.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Trump a litt\u00e9ralement capitul\u00e9 devant Poutine et l\u2019Europe en payera le prix. Le grand vainqueur est \u00e9videmment la Chine qui attends patiemment son heure.e dialogue Trump \u2013 Poutine<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>C\u2019est maintenant un fait acquis que l\u2019avenir de l\u2019Ukraine se discute entre Trump et Poutine sans souci de l\u2019Ukraine et des partenaires Europ\u00e9ens. Les participants On, a en pr\u00e9sence, sans exag\u00e9rer,&nbsp;deux v\u00e9ritables psychopathes C\u2019est \u00e9videmment un dialogue tr\u00e8s d\u00e9s\u00e9quilibr\u00e9 et dans ce cas de figure le na\u00eff se fait toujours rouler. . Le patient tisse [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":256,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[4],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-2985","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-gene"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v28.6 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>Le dialogue Trump \u2013 Poutine -<\/title>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/www.rouillier.com\/wordpress-socioeco\/le-dialogue-trump-poutine\/\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"fr_FR\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"Le dialogue Trump \u2013 Poutine -\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:description\" content=\"C\u2019est maintenant un fait acquis que l\u2019avenir de l\u2019Ukraine se discute entre Trump et Poutine sans souci de l\u2019Ukraine et des partenaires Europ\u00e9ens. 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