{"id":2959,"date":"2024-12-27T11:27:44","date_gmt":"2024-12-27T10:27:44","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.rouillier.com\/wordpress-socioeco\/?p=2959"},"modified":"2024-12-27T11:27:46","modified_gmt":"2024-12-27T10:27:46","slug":"le-consentement-explicite","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.rouillier.com\/wordpress-socioeco\/le-consentement-explicite\/","title":{"rendered":"Le consentement explicite"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Les affaires de viol se terminent tr\u00e8s souvent par un \u00ab&nbsp;non-lieu&nbsp;\u00bb et achoppent souvent sur la notion de consentement, l\u2019accus\u00e9 estimant la victime \u00ab&nbsp;consentante&nbsp;\u00bb ce qu\u2019elle d\u00e9ment. &nbsp;Les femmes s\u2019estiment, \u00e0 juste titre &nbsp;l\u00e8ses lors de ces proc\u00e9dures, alors que la pr\u00e9somption de viol est tr\u00e8s forte mais qu\u2019elle ne peut \u00eatre prouv\u00e9e. La pr\u00e9somption d\u2019innocence s\u2019impose alors. Pour cela nos techno-juriste on avanc\u00e9 la notion de \u00ab&nbsp;consentement explicite.&nbsp;\u00bb Avant toute relation sexuelle, la femme devrait exprimer son \u00ab&nbsp;consentement explicite&nbsp;\u00bb.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Dans l\u2019esprit, sinon dans la lettre, le consentement de&nbsp; l\u2019homme n\u2019est pas explicitement r\u00e9clam\u00e9, ce qui suppose qu\u2019il est pr\u00e9sum\u00e9 consentant par principe et ceci am\u00e8ne deux r\u00e9flexions<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ol class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>L\u2019homme est pr\u00e9sum\u00e9 consentant et se pr\u00e9sente alors comme un pr\u00e9dateur potentiel. C\u2019est lui donner une position qui n\u2019est pas \u00e0 son honneur et ne peut qu\u2019attiser les relation entre les sexes<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>L\u2019homme \u00e9tant consid\u00e9r\u00e9 consentant, son consentement n\u2019est pas pris en compte. Il est devenu acteur passif dans la relation sexuelle dans laquelle la femme aurait le r\u00f4le moteur par son consentement ou non. C\u2019est pas pour a paix dans les m\u00e9nages.<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">On se retrouve un peu dans le vieil adage&nbsp;:&nbsp;\u00ab&nbsp;l\u2019homme propose, la femme dispose&nbsp;\u00bb, qui n\u2019est plus gu\u00e8re d\u2019actualit\u00e9 puisque la femme \u00e0 revendiqu\u00e9e et obtenue les droit \u00e0 proposer.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Revenons au \u00ab&nbsp;consentement explicite&nbsp;\u00bb. C\u2019est une \u00e9vidence morale qui n\u2019est pas seulement le fait de la relation sexuelle. Dans toutes actions entreprises \u00e0 deux, le consentement mutuel des parties est un \u00ab&nbsp;must&nbsp;\u00bb. Il est traduit juridiquement dans un contrat, r\u00e9ciproquement approuv\u00e9 et sign\u00e9 ,(qui devient alors une forme de \u00ab&nbsp;consentement explicite&nbsp;\u00bb)<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Quand est-il dans une relation sexuelle&nbsp;? S\u2019il est moral et normal qu\u2019une relation, quel &nbsp;qu\u2019elle soit, soit fond\u00e9e sur un consentement mutuel, sa mise en place dans un syst\u00e8me juridique bas\u00e9 sur la notion de preuve et notamment dans les cas de viol est d\u00e9licate. Il s\u2019agit de d\u00e9lits commis \u00ab&nbsp;\u00e0 huis clos&nbsp;\u00bb et sans t\u00e9moins, dans lesquels l\u2019apport de preuves est quasiment impossible. Comment un juge peut-il trancher entre deux versions des faits totalement contradictoires. C\u2019est la limite du \u00ab&nbsp;consentement explicite&nbsp;\u00bb. Comment \u00e9tablir si un tel consentement \u00e0 \u00e9t\u00e9 donn\u00e9 alors qu\u2019il ne peut s\u2019agir que d\u2019un accord verbal et sans t\u00e9moins. De plus, \u00e0 l\u2019approche d\u2019une relation sexuelle, chez un individu, la notion d\u2019attirance physique peut se heurter \u00e0 un refus moral, et les pens\u00e9es ne sont pas toujours aussi pr\u00e9cises. On en arrive, avant chaque rapport \u00e0 devoir \u00e9tablir un v\u00e9ritable contrat dat\u00e9 et sign\u00e9 entre les deux parties (inutile d\u2019\u00eatre repr\u00e9sent\u00e9 par son avocat&nbsp;!)<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Notons que m\u00eame dans le mariage, ou le consentement de principe n\u2019est plus reconnu (notion de viol conjugal), on serai amen\u00e9 \u00e0 devoir fournir une preuve de \u00ab&nbsp;consentement explicite&nbsp;\u00bb avant tout rapport pour \u00e9viter toute contestation ult\u00e9rieure.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Selon nos techno-juriste on pourrait, pour garantir aucune contestation ult\u00e9rieure, remplir un formulaire du type<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Je soussign\u00e9 X\u2026. d\u00e9clare accepter un rapport sexuel avec X \u2026 dans les conditions suivantes&nbsp;:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Masturbation&nbsp;: OUI&nbsp; NON<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Fellation&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;:O UI&nbsp;&nbsp; NON<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u2026\u2026\u2026\u2026<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Flagellation&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;:O UI&nbsp;&nbsp; NON<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Fait \u00e0 \u2026&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;le \u2026<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Date et signature<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">A conserver durant 20 ans (dur\u00e9e moyenne de la prescription pour viol)<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Voil\u00e0 chacun couvert contre tout recours en justice. Merci Kafka, tu es de retour parmi nous<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Je me suis moqu\u00e9 de nos techno-juristes mais, en fait, je n\u2019ai rien de mieux \u00e0 proposer. Notre syst\u00e8me de justice, rendue par des individus qui n\u2019ont pas connaissance des faits r\u00e9els, est enti\u00e8rement bas\u00e9 sur la logique, la d\u00e9duction et la preuve \u00e0 d\u00e9faut d\u2019aveux. Autant d\u2019\u00e9l\u00e9ments cognitifs qui ont bien du mal \u00e0 \u00eatre \u00e9valu\u00e9s et jug\u00e9s dans le domaine de l\u2019affect et particuli\u00e8rement dans celui tabou a sexualit\u00e9. Les comportements humains sont loin d\u2019\u00eatre dict\u00e9s par la logique pure. Les \u00e9motions, les appels inconscients offusquent souvent nos analyses cognitives et savoir soi-m\u00eame, sur le coup, si on consent ou non n\u2019est pas si \u00e9vident. Apr\u00e8s coup on a tendance \u00e0 privil\u00e9gier &nbsp;la position qui nous est favorable.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Notre syst\u00e8me judiciaire bien adapt\u00e9 pour juger les faits, le factuel, est totalement inadapt\u00e9 quand il faut&nbsp; juger la personne, l\u2019humain. Surtout quand l\u2019\u00e9tat, via la justice, doit s\u2019imiscer dans la sph\u00e8re priv\u00e9e. Il est souvent difficile de faire la part des choses et de cr\u00e9dibiliser les t\u00e9moignages.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">En ce qui concerne les \u00ab&nbsp;experts psychiatriques&nbsp;\u00bb charg\u00e9s de d\u00e9terminer le profil psychologique des accus\u00e9s (mais pas toujours celui des victimes) \u2026 je demande un Joker&nbsp;!<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">La relation homme-femme est tr\u00e8s complexe car fond\u00e9e sur une double r\u00e9alit\u00e9 soci\u00e9tale et naturelle. La soci\u00e9t\u00e9 fond\u00e9e sur la protection collective contre les abus individuels, l\u2019\u00e9galit\u00e9 dans une r\u00e9glementation non genr\u00e9e, alors que la nature nous propose une vision m\u00e2le-femelle fond\u00e9e sur la n\u00e9cessit\u00e9 de reproduction. Aller vers l\u2019une sans oublier l\u2019autre est un exercice difficile, comme marcher sur une corde raide sans savoir de quel c\u00f4t\u00e9 on va tomber.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Les affaires de viol se terminent tr\u00e8s souvent par un \u00ab&nbsp;non-lieu&nbsp;\u00bb et achoppent souvent sur la notion de consentement, l\u2019accus\u00e9 estimant la victime \u00ab&nbsp;consentante&nbsp;\u00bb ce qu\u2019elle d\u00e9ment. &nbsp;Les femmes s\u2019estiment, \u00e0 juste titre &nbsp;l\u00e8ses lors de ces proc\u00e9dures, alors que la pr\u00e9somption de viol est tr\u00e8s forte mais qu\u2019elle ne peut \u00eatre prouv\u00e9e. 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