{"id":3478,"date":"2025-09-14T11:03:32","date_gmt":"2025-09-14T09:03:32","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.rouillier.com\/wordpress-philopsycho\/?p=3478"},"modified":"2025-09-14T11:03:37","modified_gmt":"2025-09-14T09:03:37","slug":"du-chat-de-schrodinger-a-lexistence-de-dieu","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.rouillier.com\/wordpress-philopsycho\/du-chat-de-schrodinger-a-lexistence-de-dieu\/","title":{"rendered":"Du chat de Schr\u00f6dinger \u00e0 l\u2019existence de dieu"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Quand en 19\u00e927 Heisenberg \u00e9nonce le principe d\u2019incertitude ou plut\u00f4t d\u2019ind\u00e9termination &nbsp;qui professe que certaines grandeurs physiques fondamentales&nbsp; ne pourront jamais \u00eatre mesur\u00e9es,&nbsp; il soul\u00e8ve un toll\u00e9 dans le monde scientifique. Einstein notamment prend la mouche et prof\u00e8re qu\u2019une th\u00e9orie qui s\u2019appuie sur des grandeurs incertaines ou ind\u00e9termin\u00e9es ne peut mener \u00e0 rien&nbsp;. Pourtant les faits sont les faits, et il a bien fallu se rendre \u00e0 l\u2019\u00e9vidence que ce principe \u00e9tait bien une r\u00e9alit\u00e9 et qu\u2019une th\u00e9orie ne pouvait ignorer les faits.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Pour illustrer de fa\u00e7on p\u00e9dagogique ce principe Schr\u00f6dinger imagina l\u2019exp\u00e9rience de pens\u00e9e du chat enferm\u00e9 dans une boite noire contenant un poison. Si le chat absorbe le poison, il est mort, sinon il est vivant. La boite \u00e9tant \u00e9tanche impossible de d\u00e9terminer l\u2019\u00e9tat du chat mort ou vivant. L\u2019animal est donc, pour l\u2019observateur ext\u00e9rieur mort et vivant \u00e0 la fois. En ouvrant la boite, c\u2019est \u00e0 dire en faisant un processus de mesure on trouve le chat mort ou vivant donc dans un \u00e9tat d\u00e9termin\u00e9. La mesure biaise l\u2019ind\u00e9termination. En contradiction avec l\u2019\u00e9tat du chat dans la boite ferm\u00e9e&nbsp;: mort et vivant \u00e0 la fois. La mesure fausse&nbsp; la v\u00e9rit\u00e9. D\u2019ailleurs si on rep\u00e8re l\u2019exp\u00e9rience, de pens\u00e9e, rassurez-vous on trouvera parfois le chat mort, parfois vivant \u2026 qu\u2019en est)il dans la boite ferm\u00e9e&nbsp;.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Il s\u2019agit \u00e9videmment d\u2019une illustration et non d\u2019une d\u00e9monstration&nbsp;!<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Faisons la m\u00eame exp\u00e9rience avec la m\u00eame boite mais posons-nous la question&nbsp;: \u00ab&nbsp;dieu est-il dans la boite&nbsp;?&nbsp;\u00bb Ind\u00e9termination, on en sait fichtre rie. Si dieu existe, il est partout, donc dans la boite, s\u2019il n\u2019existe pas il ne peut, \u00e9videmment, pas \u00eatre en elle.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Si j\u2019ouvre la boite je constate qu\u2019elle est vide et m\u00eame en fouillant tous les recoins je conclu que dieu n\u2019est pas l\u00e0 puisque je n\u2019en trouve aucune trace palpable \u2026 donc qu\u2019il n\u2019existe pas.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Un aurte ouvrant la boite sentira la pr\u00e9sence de dieu, sera envahi d\u2019une douce chaleur, voire de lumi\u00e8re et affirmera dieu est dans la boite, il existe&nbsp;!<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Chaque personne ouvrant la boite aura bien s\u00fbr son sentiment personnel<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">On peut en d\u00e9duire que, \u00e0 la fois dieu existe et dieu n\u2019existe pas, m\u00eame si en ouvrant la boite chacun \u00e0 son id\u00e9e bien arr\u00eat\u00e9e sur son existence. C\u2019est donc l\u2019\u00e9tat des lieus, dieu, \u00e0 la fois existe et n\u2019existe pas.<br>Nous autres pauvres humains sommes incapables d\u2019accepter l\u2019incertitude ( seule chose qui nous rapproche d\u2019Einstein). Nos philosophies se sont donc construites sur deux certitudes oppos\u00e9es&nbsp;: \u00ab&nbsp;dieu existe pour les philosophies&nbsp; religieuses ou mystiques, il n\u2019existe pas pour les philosophies mat\u00e9rialistes&nbsp; et ath\u00e9es&nbsp;\u00bb. Le \u00ab&nbsp;en m\u00eame temps&nbsp;\u00bb ne fait pas partie de nos capacit\u00e9s de pens\u00e9e.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Notre la\u00efcit\u00e9 a du mal \u00e0 vivre devant les dogmatismes religieux ou ath\u00e9es. Elle n\u2019est pas du \u00ab&nbsp;en m\u00eame temps&nbsp;\u00bb mais plut\u00f4t du \u00ab&nbsp;j\u2019ai raison, mais dans ma grande mansu\u00e9tude j\u2019accepte de te laisser vivre dans ton erreur&nbsp;\u00bb<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">C\u2019est une boutade, mais le \u00ab&nbsp;en m\u00eame temps&nbsp;\u00bb de Macron \u00e0 capot\u00e9 pour les&nbsp; m\u00eames raisons \u2026 il n\u2019est pas concevable intellectuellement. Il s\u2019est sold\u00e9 par&nbsp;: \u00ab&nbsp;un coup \u00e0 droite&nbsp;\u00bb qui lui a ali\u00e9n\u00e9 l\u2019opinion de gauche, suivit &nbsp;\u00ab&nbsp;un coup \u00e0 gauche&nbsp;\u00bb pour s\u2019ali\u00e9ner l\u2019opinion de droite .Donc pas du \u00ab&nbsp;en m\u00eame temps&nbsp;\u00bb mais plut\u00f4t du chacun son tour&nbsp;\u00bb. Il est de notori\u00e9t\u00e9 &nbsp;publique que dans une dualit\u00e9 qui ne prend pas parti pour un camps et rejet\u00e9 par les deux \u2026 selon le principe du&nbsp;: \u00ab&nbsp;si tu n\u2019es pas avec moi, alors tu es contre moi&nbsp;!<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Conclusion<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Nous ne sommes pas arm\u00e9s pour l\u2019incertitude. Elle est g\u00e9n\u00e9ratrice d\u2019angoisse. Nous sommes des animaux qui naissons sans rep\u00e8res, donc sur un fond d\u2019angoisse. Progressivement nous allons nous abreuver de certitudes qui nous s\u00e9curisent mais qui g\u00e9n\u00e8rent tos les conflits de la terre. Sauront nous, un jour, g\u00e9rer l\u2019ind\u00e9termination, et &nbsp;vivre avec&nbsp;? A quand une philosophie quantique&nbsp;? 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